How to start rakeback affiliate?

[TonygPAS]

Hey Guys,

I think there is too much emphasis on SEO in rakeback. Most Rakeback affiliates aren't aiming to drive the kind of traffic that traditional affiliates are. The player value with rakeback is soo much higher that you don't have to have xxx sign ups a months to be very successful. Furthermore, your average rakeback grinder usually isn't using search engines to find offers. They are finding out about deals from talking with fellow players and forum members. Sure, it definitely helps to rank high for terms like "Full Tilt Rakbeack" but there are MANY successful rakeback affiliates who don't even make the first 3 pages for popular search terms.

"Are you prepared to receive 5%-15% instead of 35%-40%"


I feel this statement doesn't accurately reflect the kind of player value you get with rakeback. Instead, would you rather receive 10% of a player who generates $x,xxx in MGR or receive 35% of a player who generates $xx in MGR?


We do not charge a fee for our service and it is no secret that we generate revenue by our partners signing up players through our affiliate accounts. PAS partners are given competitive rates starting out. Many move up our tiers to the point where they are getting near the top rates at many of the rooms. The difference between the top rates and what they are receiving is easily made up by our services. So essentially its a wash and you don't have to spend your entire day answering support emails


Tony
Affiliate Manager
PAS

[kingcobra]

This is an interesting offer Tony and if and when I decide to do a rakeback site I'm definitely going to check it out. I definitely like the idea of someone else doing a lot of the work for a piece of the action.

So I take it that affiliates sign up players through your rakeback links and you take care of everything from there? Sounds like a sweet deal.

For me though you're talking to a guy who doesn't even like MGR and the thought of getting a lot smaller piece of this action has never floated my boat I'm also pretty much a search engine focused affiliate and not really sure how well rakeback related links would do on popular forums and the real good ones don't allow spamming or even signature links and if they did there would be a ton of other sites that you're competing with I presume. I got a ton of players from 2+2 back in the day when they allowed sig links for instance but those days are long past. The smaller forums well they are full of kiddies and people who would be lucky to scare up a min deposit. I don't want to be sounding negative here but this is beyond my tool set right now anyway, and if people have ideas here I'm sure they are keeping them to themeselves

So right now this is what is holding me back and if I did get involved it would be from a search engine strategy although I do have one in my back pocket that I may try

[CraigPAS]

Hi Chip

As the lead designer over at PAS I'd like to address a few of your comments.

I also have a unique form of pride I guess for lack of a better word. I'd much rather build a site myself or even pay to have one done that I know is mine.

We do have a complete Content Management System as part of the free website setup at Poker Affiliate Solutions. Although everyone who sets up a site chooses from a combination of 4 layouts and 5 color schemes, you can absolutely build a complete custom website using the tools we provide. I'm actually consistently impressed by the original designs many our members have built using the tools provided. I'd like to invite you to check out our forums at http://community.pokeraffiliatesolutions.com/ and to register and experiment with the customization tools provided by our software. Please feel welcome to PM me if you have any additional questions or concerns about the customization capability of our software.

Now I think they look good, but when you start seeing a bunch that are exactly the effin same it gets old fast.

Thanks for the compliment! It's true that many of our members choose to stick with the original templates, or just lightly modify them. However, there are probably many sites that you may not even recognize as PAS powered rakeback providers. Check out the one in this PAP thread for example: http://www.pokeraffiliateprograms.co...te-please.html A lack of a portfolio is definitely a weakness of our current site, but a much more extensive gallery showcasing the design possibilities we offer is well on its way.

The lack of creativity and willingness to put in work shown by so many really bothers me, it shouldn't but it does.

As I designer, I definitely share your pain and certainly cringe when I see some really poorly designed sites. I do think that although there may be others just like it, the basic templates we provide are a few steps above the websites made by some who have very little website design experience. It is a goal of mine to make it easier for affiliates of all skill levels to give their sites some style, but ultimately as you point out, it comes down to the site owner putting in some effort and resources into creating a visually appealing and useful product.