Show coming back?

[alexpratt]

Hi Guys,

What is haoppening with the show? Is it coming back? I am loving these radio shows now and much prefer them to video as I can work away with them in the background and actually learn a thing or two.

Cheers

[kingcobra]

I really enjoyed them as well, the problem I guess is finding someone to do them.

[AdminPAP]

Yes! The radio show will be back next week with our all new host, Bob Rains. Bob is an experienced Online Marketer with obviously, tons of SEO experience. Be sure to tune in Next Tuesday at 2pm PST and join in on the fun!

More info: http://pokeraffiliateradio.com/

Show Link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pokeraffiliateradio

[kingcobra]

I checked out Bob's bio and let me tell you folks we have a genuine industry expert here on board at PAP. I've no doubt that these shows will be the most informative of its kind out there by far. Can't wait for the first one

[AdminPAP]

Radio show is on now:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pokeraf...iliate-Radio-1

Podcast will be posted shortly after!

[Casius14]

cool, this is one of the reasons i signed up to the forum!

[kingcobra]

Had a chance to listen to the show, pretty interesting stuff, the guys mostly deal with some musings on the future of online gaming in he U.S. As you may know I'm pretty interested in this as well and take a pretty contrarian view of all this so I'll throw in a few comments.

There's really 2 separate issues here, the first being the UIGEA of course, and the second being the legality of online gambling in the U.S.

The UIGEA in itself doesn't even speak to the legality of online gambling of course, it only addresses the moving of money in and out of these sites, and within these constraints only addresses financial institutions under its jurisdiction. The force of this, for all intents and purposes, is related much more to all the negative publicity and misinformation that it has generated, as the legislation itself has a negligible effect for all practical purposes.

Nonetheless, folks speak of this legislation making gambling illegal in the U.S. and in particular its repeal somehow making it legal. Keep in mind that the Feds have maintained that it was illegal prior to that, by way of the Wire Act, and this was the basis for instance for the settlement with Party Gaming, who in spite of ceasing to accept American players once the UIGEA came into effect, settled on the basis of the fact they did allow them prior to it where presumably it was illegal then.

The courts have ruled though that the Wire Act doesn't pertain to forms of gambling other than sports betting, including online poker. There is also the question of whether or not the Federal government even has jurisdiction on these matters, as currently individual states decide these matters, at least in terms of intrastate gambling. Interstate matters are decided at the federal level, but the internet crosses international lines, not state lines, and together with the peculiar nature of internet commerce, at present this remains a state by state matter. In fact California is currently considering legalizing online gambling, and this legislation isn't dependent on the UIGEA or the federal government at all. The same could be said about the effort by Kentucky to ban it in their state, and if the legislation they have on the books had been written differently, that would presumably be the case now.

So with this all said, the first question is, would the repeal of the UIGEA allow players like Harrah's into the market? Well they weren't in it before the UIGEA and they won't be after either. If anything the waters are muddier than before. Given that Party has just settled with the governent for providing online gaming to Americans prior to it, notwithstanding the UIGEA in other words, in spite of their not being under U.S. jurisdiction in any way, then it's very hard to imagine gaming companies actually under U.S. laws getting involved under these conditions.

So what would prompt this to happen? Well as long as this is seen as under state control, the whole thing at best becomes a real segmented affair, conditions far from ideal as far as entry into the market by big players is concerned. Let's just say that California succeeds in making online gambling legal in the state. The first thing that may happen is that they may look to run the thing themselves, like they do with lotteries. Why share with private enterprise? If they do look to regulate and tax, which is a realistic option, it shoudn't be a problem to get some interest there, but we're talking one state, albeit a large one. Not the kind of thing that people are envisioning where a few American gaming companies run the table in the U.S. market.

Aside from some big legal questions that enter into all this, they will be regulated and taxed, and perhaps the players will also be subject to withholding taxes as well. This really wouldn't be an issue at all perhaps other than considering the fact that online gambling is already readily accessible, and they will be competing with unregulated and untaxed sites that are in the business already, and one may wonder how well they'll be able to compete. Ultimately, someone has to bear the burden of the tax money that's generated from all this, and it's the players who will have to do it, in terms of a higher rake, less enticing promotions, or whatever. In addition, it's common knowledge that a lot of players online don't report their winnings to the IRS, which may make a lot of people reluctant to go domestic, since they have nowhere to hide under regulated domestic gambling.

So in the end we have a situation where a lot of people have dared to dream some pretty idyllic dreams here, and in particular asked themselves how far away they may be, where the reality is a whole lot murkier. It may even be a big stretch to whether or not enough support can be gained to even repeal the UIGEA, and even if it is, what will happen when the Republicans step up to bat again, itching to rid themselves of this immoral behavior that keeps their bible thumping constituants up at night contemplating all the extra sin that is going on in the country 24 hours a day?

I do see a battle going on here and a very real one and the battle lines are drawn at the state level, with so many states considering taking measures against us. We really need to be concerned with that. We don't want to get all caught up too much in a drunken party at the federal level that is probably not going to lead anywhere, and all the while forces are aligning against us and have the real potential to deliver some serious bite.

[JasonDuke]

but did you like the show KC ?

[TheOPC]

Listening to the podcast right now... Priceless info around 50 minute mark regarding page rank and seo... Thank you Jason

[alexpratt]

Great show! Really enjoyed it - Looking forward to next week already