Multi-Accounter In My Full Tilt Tournament-Slap On The Wrist?

[RakeReport]

Yesterday I ran a private tournament for members of my forum. We send the password out to only those with 50+ posts, but I noticed a number of registered player names that we had never seen before.

I did a search through my forum and noticed that one of the members had posted hand histories with two of these names on Full Tilt, that were now registered in our single event.

I contacted Full Tilt support, because we knew he was using at least three names in our game:

Ricksz1
Royal Diem
SuperSem

His forum name on our site is SuperSem, but he had hand histories posted in our bad beats section where he was playing as those other two accounts. I also provided Full Tilt with the screenames from the event that we didn't recognize, in case any of those were his.

This morning I received an email they meant to send to this offender, it was in Dutch, so I used babbel fish to translate:

This e-mail is for the information that we have noted that you have more than one account on Full Tilt play poker. The account with following spelers-ID, " powerslee" , has been now closed

We have however your hoofdaccount, " RoyalDiem" , left open and you can play with this account further on our Internet site.

Because of security reasons and to give equal chances to our players during the game, we can but Full Tilt play poker account by player to permit. Further information on our regelementen and conditions wants you, then you can read through that on: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/nl/siteRules.php. This regelement apply to all versions of the Full Tilt play poker software, the .COM, the .ORG and the .NET version.

In advance much luck to the tables thanks for your term and. Kind regards, Hoseok

So now we can add powerslee to the list of his accounts, bringing it to AT LEAST four frigging accounts he was playing in the same tournament. And all FTP is going to do is eliminate one of them and let him keep another? WTF?

Shouldn't this guy be banned from their site and any money he won via cheating be refunded? What can be done to ensure he doesn't get away with this? I'm really upset and so are my site members.

[mjmurphy53711]

They probably just nuked his rakeback account

[RakeReport]

Originally Posted by mjmurphy53711

They probably just nuked his rakeback account

That's not going to make my forum members feel more comfortable about the situation.

If the only penalty you get for robbing a bank is having to pay back the money you stole, where is the reason NOT to rob a bank?

If the only penalty you get for playing multiple accounts in the same event is to have the extra accounts closed, what reason do you have NOT to keep doing it?

There need to be stiffer penalties and they need to be enforced. Otherwise it destroys any shred of trust people have in the sites, and that's bad for business.

[punchtheclock]

They probably weren't all his accounts. Much ado about nothing.

[RakeReport]

Originally Posted by punchtheclock

They probably weren't all his accounts. Much ado about nothing.

Uhhh.....so it's just random coincidence that someone on my forum named SuperSem posts two separate bad beats which list Royal Diem and Ricksz1 as the receipients of said bad beats, and then all three of those accounts happen to find their way into my sites private tournament as well?

Are you serious dude? It's blatantly obvious he was in control of all three of those accounts, and via the email from Full Tilt I now know that powerslee was also his.

So that's a minimum of four accounts that he registered to play in the same tournament. How can you blow it off like it's no big deal?

[PokerPie]

nobody cares

ftp obv doesn't

[RakeReport]

Originally Posted by PokerPie

nobody cares

ftp obv doesn't

I just don't understand this approach. I would assume as affiliates you'd want people to have faith and trust in the online games. It's stuff like this that makes people not trust online poker and not want to signup.

It blows my mind that any of you can just ignore this type of activity. In the situation with Brian Townsend multi-accounting, I don't think that's a huge deal as long as it was just used as a new identity to play lower stakes, and he isn't running multiple accounts in the same game.

But this guy in my private tournament was using multiple accounts to chip dump to his main account. That type of behavoir is inexcusable. If someone was colluding with friends in a live poker game against you, wouldn't you be pretty pissed?

[haynesey]

When you offer freerolls this is what happens.

Unless you can offer a buy-in this is what freeroll whores do and you wont be able to stop it. I've seen people have 10+ accounts in the same free tournament.

[RakeReport]

Originally Posted by haynesey

When you offer freerolls this is what happens.

Unless you can offer a buy-in this is what freeroll whores do and you wont be able to stop it. I've seen people have 10+ accounts in the same free tournament.

It shouldn't matter whether it's a free event or a paid event. There is money involved, and there is consumer trust. If the sites and the affiliates just ignore cheating unless it's high-stakes, that doesn't help make the case in support of online poker at all.

It's things like this that diminish consumer trust and make people less likely to play or deposit on the sites, if they feel like cheating is just going to be relatively ignored. It's the principal of the matter.

[punchtheclock]

Originally Posted by RakeReport

It shouldn't matter whether it's a free event or a paid event. There is money involved, and there is consumer trust. If the sites and the affiliates just ignore cheating unless it's high-stakes, that doesn't help make the case in support of online poker at all.

It's things like this that diminish consumer trust and make people less likely to play or deposit on the sites, if they feel like cheating is just going to be relatively ignored. It's the principal of the matter.

You are wrong about most of the things you have said in this post. I'm not gonna bother taking you down notch by notch. You need to get the idea out of year head that you are promoting a 5 star restaurant.

If I knew that FT was investigating what was going on in your freeroll, I would say that was pretty irresponsible on their part. Their resources are limited and should be concentrated where they are needed most.

If people cared about this stuff, UB would have gone under long ago. Even after 60 minutes airs a story on them they will probably advertise on ESPN and will do just fine