New Terms at Fulltilt - your players have only 60 days to deposit

[Jeremy]

Per the email I got last week from Nell, the policy is retroactive. The way I interpret this is that in 60 days any player in your current account will be released if they have not deposited.

Regardless of the sentiment in the market, I do think FullTilt should make an official statement by sending an email to the affiliates simply clarifying the exact policy so there is no confusion.

If it really is just a business decision by FT, I can live with that. No matter how unpopular, like our parents told us when we were kids, "sometimes life isn't fair".

However, I would like to see FT stand behind their decision and take ownership of it. If FT believes this is the right business decision and that it makes sense for affiliates, then there should be no reason not to send out or at the least post here what the "official policy" is in respect to retroactivity, the date this starts, if a P2P transfer qualifies as a deposit.

Yet we are all here asking questions and speculating on everything.

[Graham]

Originally Posted by Jeremy

if a P2P transfer qualifies as a deposit.

That would be interesting to know, as it would definitely be a resolution to the problem.

[DealerDan]

I just wrote a letter to Full Tilt in regard to the definition of a real money player, and why it should be changed. I've posted it here. Everyone, please do the same, because this definition needs to be changed immediately.

Edit: But don't copy/paste what I wrote obviously - just put it in your own words. You don't need to be as detailed as I was

[Nell@fulltiltpoker.com]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the feedback, I do read the forums and have read every post and email that we’ve received. We have been working on fine tuning the details of which players will remain tracked to your affiliate account after the 60 days. Please see the details and examples below.
Any player whose Real Money balance has reached a minimum of $25 in their first 60 days will also remain tracked to your affiliate account. The player may reach that amount by depositing, winning money in a freeroll or ring games, or a player-to-player transfer.

For example, if you decide to host a private freeroll for your players and one of your new players wins $20, and goes on to build this up to $25 or more by playing ring games within their first 60 days, they will remain tracked to your account regardless of when they make their first deposit.

If you have players under your affiliate account who have deposited after 60 days of signup, but have deposited before April 1st, they will remain on your account. Example: Player x signs up Dec 2006 and deposits Oct 2007, this player will remain on your account.

If you have players under your affiliate account who have had at least $25 in their player account before April 1st, they will remain on your account.

Moving forward a player must meet the requirements as stated above within 60 days to remain on your account.

On April 1st, all players that have signed up on or before February 1st who have not made a deposit or had at least $25 in their player account will be removed from your affiliate tracker.

Please let me know if you need clarification on this definition,

Cheers,

Nell

[Ridge]

Thanks for posting Nell, that clears some stuff up.

[corpfan1]

Thanks for the info Nell.


So it is official - this is RETROACTIVE.

Say goodbye to 500+ players on April 1....sad.


And according to the newsletter we received, these players will REMAIN with Full Tilt, just not tracked to ANY affiliate. But, probably allowed to open a new account with Rakeback under a different screen name/email.

Just another reason why it is VITAL to collect your player's info when they visit your site via newsletter or other method where they OPT-IN somehow, so you can send them somewhere else if they don't deposit at a certain poker room.

[Zabulus]

Clears it up, but still is BS

[Notspot]

Am I alone in thinking this is a vast improvement - it helps out the rakeback aff's who have lots of players who have only played through inter-account transfer. It's also good for those who were going to lose high value players on MGR who hadn't made their own deposit.

Now all we need to know is why rakebackpros were chosen instead of one of the respected rakeback aff's from our gang ;-) Or is it in-house (I'm still not convinced)?

[realitybytes]

3 years of work!

60% of depositing players over 60 days is my average a month!

I would say you are alone

I am still not convinced. The only way i would be convinced by this is if the players account is completely removed from the system after the 60 days and up to that point they are marketed and notified of that.

Then after the 60 days the account is released and that player is free to be marketed by anybody in the industry which in some aspects is a good thing, but that is not how it will be working. Who knows if we can even have the player associated to us again if they have been removed in the past?

[Graham]

Originally Posted by realitybytes

I am still not convinced. The only way i would be convinced by this is if the players account is completely removed from the system after the 60 days and up to that point they are marketed and notified of that.

Technically that should be done since they seem to think it is unlikely players will ever deposit after 60 days, why not just get rid of the ... yea right - we all know that would never happen.

Really, I think they should allow the affiliates more options to entice the players to deposit at that point or do something themselves to entice the player before the 60 days is up, but if I were a betting man (which I am) I don't think they want that. But here's to hoping!

“Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed” - Ghandi