Well to be honest I've never done rakeback and I figured that the commish would be less than this, and in cases where the max isn't a set amount I'd expect it would be, at least to offer a competitive deal as the thing would no doubt be arbitraged down. If you offer what amounts to 8 then I'll add a couple of percent to the player's side, and someone else adds a couple more, until we get to such a thin margin that only the busiest sites can do well. Anyway in this case, if it's 8 for them then it really doesn't matter what other sites are paying in a way on different sites and networks, this one takes U.S. players we'll say and thus a valuable addition to your offerings and if people are going to want to play there, and they should given the much greater ease of competition there than at competitive sites catering to the American market, then it's a matter of you getting a cut of their play rather than someone else. So the comparison is really between 8 and nothing, and 8 sounds pretty good in those terms