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Old 10-22-2005, 12:25 AM
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Hey guys, I read this article today and with the authors approval reprinted it here. One of the points that stood out to me and is very true is that Google is there to help people find what they are looking for. With that said if your going after certain keywords........develop your content around those words.

At the end of the day you can have 1000's of backlinks and have a page loaded with keywords, but is the content really what searchers were hoping to find or is it just some page with banners hoping to gain sign-ups from an affiliate program. Think about that for a second.

Anyhow here is the article:

Getting Google to Love You
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:38 AM
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Thanks for posting the article Jeremy however I have to disagree with its author. Actually I have to disagree with all articles of this kind - 'make a good content, design your site for people not for robots' blah blah blah. To me its kind of b...shit.

Yes, search engines are getting more and more inteligent, especially Google - it tries to analyze your content with some kind of artifical intelligence. But still, the effects of this analyzis on SERP are minimal. The truth is, content is for people. Content makes your traffic convert into clicks, content makes people come back. But if you want traffic there is nothing better than pure brutal link power.

I know, what I'm writing here maybe controversial, but that's how I think things are. Let me give you an example of my own website.

I set up www.poker24.pl just 6 months ago. Yes, I try to make it content rich. But my goal on the SEO front was to rank as high as possible for the search term 'poker' - not in google.com of course, that's close to impssible, but in the polish language section of Google and other polish engines. Then I have done a simple thing - added about 1000 links with the anchor text 'poker'. Result - pole positon in all polish SE, polish version of MSN and today, finally, first page in polish google. I was sandboxed for the first few months but now the filter is slowly being removed and my SERP improves everyday...

To sum it up: make content... for your players. When it comes to SEO just link, link, link...

What do yo think? Does anybody agree or you think I lost my mind ?
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by ozim@Oct 22 2005, 07:38 AM
Thanks for posting the article Jeremy however I have to disagree with its author. Actually I have to disagree with all articles of this kind - 'make a good content, design your site for people not for robots' blah blah blah. To me its kind of b...shit.

Yes, search engines are getting more and more inteligent, especially Google - it tries to analyze your content with some kind of artifical intelligence. But still, the effects of this analyzis on SERP are minimal. The truth is, content is for people. Content makes your traffic convert into clicks, content makes people come back. But if you want traffic there is nothing better than pure brutal link power.

I know, what I'm writing here maybe controversial, but that's how I think things are. Let me give you an example of my own website.

I set up www.poker24.pl just 6 months ago. Yes, I try to make it content rich. But my goal on the SEO front was to rank as high as possible for the search term 'poker' - not in google.com of course, that's close to impssible, but in the polish language section of Google and other polish engines. Then I have done a simple thing - added about 1000 links with the anchor text 'poker'. Result - pole positon in all polish SE, polish version of MSN and today, finally, first page in polish google. I was sandboxed for the first few months but now the filter is slowly being removed and my SERP improves everyday...

To sum it up: make content... for your players. When it comes to SEO just link, link, link...

What do yo think? Does anybody agree or you think I lost my mind ?
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Old 10-22-2005, 09:13 AM
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Old 10-22-2005, 10:04 AM
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ozim that interview with negreanu is translated or exclusive?

I got one (exclusive) too, I'll add my site here at reviews section next week
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:42 AM
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True, but if you wait till your content attracts links... well, you may wait a long time...

It's much more efficient if you just exchange links with every site out there, no matter of content, just as long they are solid from the seo point of view.

For example the quality of my content maybe really low for a lot of people as my site is a non-english site, however it's still profitable to exchange links with me as my site is pr4, has more than 100 indexed sites, Google sees it as a poker site etc. etc.


I didn't say wait for your content to attract links. I said having good quality content is the first step to getting good links. There's a big difference.

Exchanging links with every site out there is the worst thing you can do. Google is going to determine what your site is about based on who you're linking to and who's linking to you. If you're linking to 100 different versions of 777-spam-the-search-engines-poker.com, then what kind of authority is your site going to have with the engines?

Exchange links with other quality sites with quality content that you want to be associated with instead. Discriminate. Be selective.

Besides which, if you link to a bunch of crappy sites, your visitors will also think you're a crappy site, so you'll have lower conversions and fewer repeat visitors.

Massive non-discriminating link exchanges might work now in Yahoo and MSN, but they don't work in Google.

But getting links from authority sites with good reputations and good content works in all 3 search engines, and it's a better long term strategy.

Also, the language that your site is written in isn't an indicator of whether or not you're offering quality content. Quality content written in French, Spanish, German, etc. is still quality content.
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I have a semi relevant question about linking

Would getting a banner on someone elses site that goes to your website be the same as having a www.-------.com link? Or what if you have the title of your website in text and when that's clicked on it links to your site?
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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I have a semi relevant question about linking

Would getting a banner on someone elses site that goes to your website be the same as having a www.-------.com link? Or what if you have the title of your website in text and when that's clicked on it links to your site?
Yeah, that would count as a link.

I don't know if it would be as powerful as having a text link with your anchor text, but I don't see why it wouldn't count.
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