Locked Thread

[LadyHoldem]

Person On PAP with 4 accounts

These locked threads are troublesome. Shouldn't they just be moved to this section, where they're ignored, and aloud to just.. bash each other if that's all they have to do?

I don't care to go into my opinion of the activities, because it's irrelevant, but locked threads are frustrating, and a lot like my telling my children to hush and I don't want to hear one more word!

[kaus]

What should we do Lady? Seriously. The forum is supposed to be professional and yet the flaming, and name calling is getting out of hand. So should I delete ...absolutely not because than I have people complain that I delete threads...do I let it just continue?

Sure I can let it continue but then I have people say that we arent doing anything about it ...the best part and this is quite funny. When someone comments on someones site sale or link sale as to whether the information they provided is accurate or the or not ...well now those threads should be edited or deleted correct? But its ok to allow people to bash when the situation has been resoloved. A little hypocritical dont you think

But you know what thats fine. The next time someone asks me to correct their thread because they dont like whats been posted, Ill let it be.

So tell me what should I be doing since obviously this post is about me or does it have to do with the people whose threads I locked because I am about sick and tired of hearing this.

[LadyHoldem]

I think you're taking that a bit personal ma'am. I've never asked someone to delete something from one of my sales threads, fyi. I know that you did once, I didn't ask for it, took some shit for it, and again, didn't make it personal. Realized you were trying to be helpful, so I never even answered most the PM's that talked about my 'using friendships' to get my thread cleaned up. Just let them believe that it was my evil plan all along. (if it were personal, btw, that was my chance .. weeee.. :/ )

I don't like when the crap spills over into sales threads, that sucks. Especially when it's these guys feuding. Most the time I agree with you, I think they should all shut the hell up. The whining is irritating, reminds me of my misbehaving children. There's a free for all thread at CAP,that's a decent idea.

Is it to do with you? Wth is that? No it's honestly to do with DP, and my constant hope that this doesn't turn into to DP. I do actually get threads locked in DP, and I find it personally offensive. Nearly everytime I (or lotsa other people) ask a question there, the thread is locked.

It's rude, irritating, and annoying.

In this particular case, yeah it is a bit to do with the people posting though.. They're accusing each other of scamming ppl here, and elsewhere.. that's something I think some ppl that do business here often (including you..) would be interested in I think.

[kaus]

Yes we are interested in ppl who do that but that particular thread had been dealt with by Graham who banned the two account and would leave the rest of it up to Jeremy. The thread continued, brought up different stuff that had been dealt with in the past..then continued with more name calling etc even though the issue at hand has been dealt with. When does it stop because the last post came from someone who wasnt involved (has the right to post) but wasnt involved and felt the need to start some more name calling. It escalates things and I for one am sick of it. Regardless like I said to you in chat I wont be doing this anymore because I dont have to deal with these threads, I dont have to deal with being questioned or flamed based on the choice I make. I do it willingingly to help, but IMO my time is better spent working on my own stuff than sitting there trying to get a bunch of adults to stop acting like children some days. There is a huge difference between being helpful and causing problems and that thread had more people causing trouble than actual trying to resolove it,

Now I am off for the night because quite frankly I dont give a shit anymore

[AceHigh Pino]

In all seriousness though, all crazy threads like the ones that have been going down lately can't be stopped. You can't stop people from complaining, bitching, whining, or throwing in their two cents on particular topics - and whether we like it or not, just because PAP is a professional forum, it doesn't mean the interwebs should be policed and threads locked just because it gets a bit out of hand.

Move the nastyness to another board - maybe the Cocktail Lounge or whatever, and just let it die. Trust me, these threads where people are make it there personal duty to "out" people or want to vent about getting rolled or screwed over are people who will eventually get over it and let it go. Locking a thread doesn't set good a good precedent and it really shouldn't be any moderator or admin's job to do so unless that person is posting unsuitable pictures, phishy links, or threatening to rape someone else's wife or whatever - and in that case IP ban the person and move on.

Mods should talk to these particular people via a PM first - or even hug it out on MSN or Skype and then come to an amicable decision before the lock-hammer is thrown down on posts and whatnot...assuming that no agreement can be made then ya know? It's a forum, it's free speech, and shit happens sometimes. When it does it should be dealt with on a 1-to-1 basis with the higher-ups and the original poster before anything gets locked. Private mediation is always better than public flameage and then subsequent lockdowns by Mods.

[Ridge]

Guys I'm not sure what the issue is, but that thread was pointless especially for seasoned affiliates that know how to avoid being scammed. Is any serious affiliate going to ship 20k for a site to be scammed? I'm not sure your motivation for this thread but the bullshit on the forums is at an all time high!

That Gtycoon thread was just shit slinging and lies(not the 4 accounts thing, but after that it was attacking and accusations), so why keep it running? It makes this whole place look like shit. We should want threads like that to be posted, resolved, and closed.

There are too many people here that don't know how to make money, so they stick up websites and spend the rest of their time bitter and jealous of "real" affiliates. So, instead of learning and growing they spend their time googleing for links, staring at others websites, and being bitter.

[AceHigh Pino]

Attn Moderator: Please lock this thread, k thx.

*edit* LOL with me there people, yeesh...

[LadyHoldem]

Lol

Moderator Tj - hehe

Motivation, for Kaus and Ridge

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4. Thread bumping is a no-no (why?)

Anyway, so that the thread isn't all mistified with thoughts of conspiracy, there's my motivation, let's hop back over to the original topic though, deleting, locking, and otherwise choosing who gets to talk, when, how much, and about what.

Thread locking is impersonal, it's also frustrating, whether or not a problem is resolved, or worked out, whether or not someone's received the help they needed, the thread is just locked.. 'because i said so.'

[RakeReport]

Originally Posted by Ridge

There are too many people here that don't know how to make money, so they stick up websites and spend the rest of their time bitter and jealous of "real" affiliates. So, instead of learning and growing they spend their time googleing for links, staring at others websites, and being bitter.

I'm not trying to make anymore enemies, but......it looks like you try to toss in your own negative jabs (albeit subtle, but quite noticable) about specific forum members quite frequently in these threads.

If you really dislike those threads, why fan the flames higher by taking such a stance?

The individual being complained about has already shown that he's willing to create multiple accounts to try and bash people he dislikes (making them look worse because now there's four accounts that are negative towards someone) and/or use multiple accounts to rah-rah his own threads.

I don't know the moderaters here, but I know it's not an easy job to play the middle man in such conflicts. Nevertheless, the individual in question has had numerous fueds with people across the industry, and resorts to intimidation, blackmail and harrasment to try and bully others into submission.

I think there are numerous members of this forum and across the industry that are tired of his antics. And when you're on the receiving end of his behavoir, it can be very frustrating when you're trying to help the community by making them aware and you're getting bashed on for it.

So I guess the question is: how do we handle issues like this, such that they won't devolve into a mud-slinging debacle that accomplishes nothing?

[gtycoon]

Dude you are getting seriously out of line. And you statements are not factual. You have to be kidding me for real.

And talk about real affiliates. You took over year to develop a hand replayer that I can have made in weeks and give away for free.

Those accounts were verified to be same IP from the mod here.

BTW I accumulated 250 more sites and 300 domains while googling Pokerpie. Im multi- tasking.

Pokerpie threatened me today and Ive contacted FBI.